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Middle School Sports Buffers Against Bullying

This letter was submitted by Rep. Roberto DaSilva.

 

Dear Governor Chafee:

Recently, the state budget commission appointed to the city of East Providence has decided to deprive our students and community of the ability to participate in middle school sports. Although I fully understand the difficult job the commission must undertake, I fear this move will have dire effects on our students’ educational experience and will serve to erode our sense ofcommunity.

On Feb. 23, hundreds of East Providence residents joined with our youth to voice their objections to the elimination of middle school sports. It was touching to witness the confidence and conviction these students demonstrated when they stood up before a large crowd to testify to the benefits they have gained in their academic and social development because of the schoolsports programs. As you know, the middle school years are the most formidable years of a child’s life. These students are leaving the comfort of their elementary school environments – where they have been for the past six years with the same student body – and are put into a new environment with unfamiliar peers and teachers. Their mentors have been left behind and their friends may have gone to a different middle school.

It is at this point in their young lives that bullying and other negative influences can have such serious negative impacts on a child’s development. Middle school sports allow the student athlete to become part of the school community and to build new and long-lasting friendships. They learn the value of teamwork and the valuable lessons learned when you win and lose. Many of the students testified to the importance of their coach in their lives as both a teacher and mentor. Students spoke of how middle school sports have forced them to work harder at their academic goals and how they have led to remarkable improvements in test scores.

Middle school sports benefits more than just the student athlete. It benefits the entire school as it brings the student body together to root for its school team. It builds pride within the school and the community. In many instances, this is the only opportunity some members of our community have to come together for a positive common goal: rooting for and supporting their student athletes. Many in East Providence refer to this as “Townie Pride.” It is an essential part of the fabric of our community.

After having been exposed to the testimony of these young students this past Thursday, I question why middle school sports are not part of the state’s Basic Education Plan. If our goal is to give our students an excellent education with valuable life lessons that will serve them for years to come, why aren’t we requiring middle school sports throughout the state? On a personal note, my 10-year-old son who has been playing soccer since age 5 was recently expressing how excited he was to join the Riverside Middle School soccer team. His hopes have been dashed by the budget commission’s decision to eliminate middle school sports. He was so upset that when I mentioned there was a protest scheduled this past Thursday, he asked to be part of it. It was an excellent opportunity to teach him about civic involvement.

I hope you will intervene to ensure that his dreams and those of more than 500 other East Providence children are realized by saving our middle school sports.

Respectfully,
Roberto DaSilva
Representative – District 63

About this column: Got a letter for Patch? Send it to abigail.crocker@patch.com! Related Topics: East Providence Schools

Veteran

12:43 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012

I agree with Roberto Dasilva, give the kids back middle school sports and bring on the receiver to file bankrupt. The receiver can then make middle school sports a priority by canceling these outrageous union contracts that are choking the life out of East Providence taxpayers.

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Rumford Resident

6:26 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Heres a thought.....

Instead of writing to Chaffee, why dont you write a letter to Tsonos? He said 2 weeks ago there were 'plenty of other places to cut'

Talk about playing to the moronic masses! Classic Democratic hack issue! Like 'RECESS'.

Hey Bobby, why don't we cut pensions for hacks who double dip and give the money to 'the kids'.

Thank you Budget Commission for doing what Tsonos and Furtado and Rossi (the Democrats who were locally elected to work on this) could not do on their own!

Letters like this that play to the sympthies are the same type of themes that the 'Union Hack Working Families of RI' played to in the last election.

Guess what, we aren't buying it anymore!

If you want your kid to play sports, cut somewhere else. Start with DaSilva's public service union hack friends pay, benefits and pensions

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Arthur Dolloff

2:35 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Looks better this way in election year!

Rumford Resident

8:22 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012

And lets not forget folks....

When Gina Raimondo's pension reform bill was put up for a vote, DaSilva voted AGAINST

Hey kids, DaSilva doesn't give a damn about your school sports..... As long as he can borrow money from your future incomes to pay for it....

And he and his fat cat buddies can keep their fat pensions..

Shameless!

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Arthur Dolloff

2:34 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

He is shameless he is a polition, and will say or do anything for votes!!!!!

Paul

12:36 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012

We look forward to Mr. DaSilva's letter to the citizens of East Providence with concrete ideas and action plans on how to fund sports and reduce the deficit. Until such time as he, the council and school committee are prepared to provide leadership in this area, please spare us the 'platitudes with attitude'.

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Arthur Dolloff

2:37 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Not likely that will ever happen, too much work.
Just read Chrisies article in the Reporter, she allready covered that base.

Abigail Crocker

2:01 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Hi everyone. As I've said before, keep it civil.

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S

9:11 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012

Abigail Crocker I agree people need to keep it civil however you need to report the news not your one sided view.
you allow the union people to say and do what ever they want and all you say is keep it civil--- do you have the union deciding what can stay and what has to go. Is Chrissy Rossi and John Faria and Pauly poo Moura along with the close friendship team of Coogan and Rogers doing your censoring for you.
Money says this post will not last lets just see what Abagail will do or say.

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Kevin Oliver

3:55 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012

I dont understand the hostility towards Abigail. She is simply saying to keep it civil. She doesnt want people alleging crimes, she doesnt want slander. She figues as adults we can have normal convesations without resorting to such childish things. These things wouldnt be allowed anywhere else either. It\f you wote a letter to the N.Y. Post do you think they would allow it?

MichaelSmith

10:55 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Schools can do something on how to prevent bullying, there should always have rules and regulations that must be implemented. Bullying issue is a human violation in which students are not aware about it. On this note, parents should also take part in preventing bullying because kids will suffer if this issue will be ignored. I felt happy and relieved when I knew about SafeKidZone, it has an application called panic button. It has the best features like danger zone, safe zone and crime data and it also have a capacity to track you phone through GPS. Check out their site http://safekidzone.com/

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Arthur Dolloff

2:44 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Nothing, NOTHING, serves to put fences between children like sports. The winners always rub it in. Those that can not or wish not to participate are forced into the reality that sports people think they are better. In the class of "67" we had an example of this."RIC" (real in crowd) coined by some to show how real special the thought they were. Lets not make this some hero on a shining horse that is going to cure all that ails adeloscence, it is a money issue at a time when we can not spend our way out!!!

Dermody

12:23 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

@ Rep. DaSilva. Thank you for writing on our behalf, hopefully it does some good. @ RR make your point without being offensive. It's always better received when there is a bit of class attached. Furthermore, everyone deserves to get paid for their service. I understand Rep DaSilva is a Police officer and also puts in several days per week attending meetings at the State House. Quality of life is I'm sure affected (as is his family) so benefits and pay are not out of the question. @ Abigail: comments like this are encouraged and condoned when you allow your other writers to offend your readers with their uneducated writing and rhetoric.

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Ray Bassett

12:56 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Where is "RR" being offensive or un-civil?? no profanity, no obscenities, . . A little
"rude", a little "crude" - ok, possibly....but certainly not offensive!!! He his voicing his feelings, his opinions. Until someone crosses the line and starts writing in expletives,
I personally see no reason for Ms. Crocker's comment.

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Arthur Dolloff

2:52 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Ray,
I think you are right on the mark.
Some would like to take the passion out of this Blog, others will welcome it.
Myself I look for the right to speak my thoughts and hear others. If they don,t like what they hear they can go read something tamer, however don't tell others what is CLASS is.

Ray Bassett

1:07 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

If you're going to play moderator Ms. Crocker, than you need to realize that people have strong feelings, and strong view points. This Blog, this venue, it is NOT Middle school.....don't play principal - Let Mr. Dasilva refute, rebut, and respond to "RR's" statements. Or do you hold some sort of "allegiances" to the unions too????

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Ray Bassett

1:30 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

To Mr. Dasilva...........How about we let the citizens of East Providence decide for them selves??? Let's put it to a vote??? Cut the union's benefits (especially pension payouts) in favor of sports in our middle schools, or cut the sports and let's keep paying the pensions and health care benefits to union members...ESPECIALLY those union members who have been collecting these benefits longer than they actually worked!!! All good things must come to an end! The strong-hold that unions have over our towns, cities, and states are drowning us!! Because they performed some service for the public, the public is suppose to support them for the rest of their lives!?!?!?!? I THINK NOT! They were paid to perform the duties they chose to do.
Let the unions take care of their members! I take care of MY family, and MY family takes care of me!!! I don't go around to my neighbors and ask them to support me........ BTW, This just doesn't apply to unions either............Politicians are the first ones to have their hands out.............here's a thought - Less politicans, less politics!

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Ray Bassett

1:37 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

@Dermody...........you are WAY off base! People are entitled to their OWN opinions....just like you.......I don't agree with what you wrote, but I am not "suggesting" (unlike you) that we censor comments because someone (like you) doesn't agree with them.................

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Arthur Dolloff

3:04 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

This is not Miss. Posts book of etiquette, this is the reality of saving our city and for many their retirements (no not the Union retirements) the working man’s retirement. Retirement in the home he worked all his life for. Some think it is ok to tax him out and let someone in that can afford to pick up where he failed (sound familiar)but national politics aside, We are locked in the battle of our livelihoods and there is little room for “Politically Correct” discussions. So if you don’t like it turn the computer off.

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Jack D

3:06 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Have some dignity Bobby, and leave office like Devall. All you reps say you want to help the taxpayer, but the only thing you are willng to do is to empower union hacks for the vote.

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Paul

3:23 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

As we approach election season, the wolves are starting to take their sheep's clothing back out of the closet. Mr. DaSilva, whose allegiance during the pension crisis was to the public service unions, and not to the taxpayers, is now donning the 'concerned about the kids' mantle. Let's not forget the 'Working Families Coalition' in the last election, a benevolent-sounding disguise for the teachers union.

The wolves are beginning to gather. They will wear all sorts of costumes to gain our confidence, mask their allegiances, and disguise their intent. Beware.

lunnst

4:07 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Lynn Vargas, you are the nosiest person in our neighborhood. You are always in everyone's business. If you are running for the senate seat don't let Rogers run your campaign like the last time, because you could never beat us. You are a 3x loser you backed Larissa-Republican, Lynn Vargas- you the Republican and George W Bush- Republican. You should of listened to your husband and stayed out of politics, but then again your husband is a good guy who didn't want to put up with this political bs and a better man for putting up with you. Frank we love you and what you have done wish that you would reconsider senate seat please. Lynn I do have to give you some credit you are a horrible at politics but you are a good at changing oil. You can always go to the dentist to get those teeth looked at maybe that would improve your smile unfortunately I don't think it would improve your politics. .

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Fead up in EP

4:17 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Dear Rep,
I didn't see anywhere in your letter where you tell us where the money is? Another unfunded mandate by an out-of-touch politician, PLEASE join Sen Devall and don't run for re-election.

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b1

9:16 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Fead???? How about Fed.

Fead up in EP

4:22 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Dear Governor Chafee:
Recently, the state budget commission appointed to the city of East Providence has decided to no longer spend money that the city does not have in an effort balance the budget...

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lunnst

4:22 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Lynn are you going to the Mayer Roger's fundraiser, I heard that is where going to announce that you were running for the senate seat? Wondering who your date to that is going to be maybe Coogan,or Larissa or both this should be interesting. Oh by the way you should just use your real name on the patch and stop hiding behind the "Rumford Resident" your giving Rumford a bad name like you almost did in Riverside but Thanks to Frank Devall for stopping you.

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Rumford Resident

9:22 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

There was nothing uncivil about my posts......

I guess if you support OKeefe and not the union hacks, you are censored ?

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Look@you

9:40 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Well I have yet to see a uncivil opinion. People cant always handle the truth so they cry. Listen up cant take the heat get out of politics or peoples business Mrs. Vargas. I don't like to be pick on and I am just a citizen so explain to me Mrs. Vargas why my name is always coming out of your mouth.Freedom of press or speach still stands in the land I was born and raised in.

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Tony Silva

10:36 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Brian. Get a job! Everyone knows it is you so just put your real name and move on to Rehoboth.

Lindsay Wilkes-Edrington

10:17 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

Hi, all. None of the previous comments were intentionally deleted by anyone at Patch. We are looking into the issue. I welcome you to re-post any constructive thoughts pertaining to the article. We do reserve the right to delete comments that are threatening and harassing and thus violate our terms of service. http://eastprovidence.patch.com/terms

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Veteran

11:58 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012

I agree with Roberto Dasilva, bring on the receiver to cancel all of the abusive union contracts and make middle school sports a priority, lol

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Ron Carmark

1:57 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

If it weren't for municipal union hack politicians like Representative DaSilva we would never be in this position where middle school sports would be in jeopardy. It is really rich that he is commenting on this subject. Thankfully, Treasurer Raimondo & the majorities of both parties in the legislature got together to modify crazily exorbitant state worker pensions & save this state from imminent bankruptcy overcoming union toady Rep. DaSilva and his ilk who tried to thwart the process every step of the way!

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Jack D

8:51 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

Mr Dasilva is a union hack, like I said in a earlier post, do us all a favor and don't seek re-election like Mr Devall.

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7star

10:53 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

Mr DaSilva was wisely elected by a majority of voters who felt he would stand up against those who wish to eradicate the middle class.

Ray Bassett

9:54 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

@Lindsay...so, if someone "deems" a comment to be "threatening" or "harassing" then "someone" will intentionally delete them???!?!?!?!?!? there was nothing threatening or harassing about ANY of the comments that WERE intentionally deleted!! "someone" you, abigail, or whomever, INTENTIONALLY deleted them because they were not agreed with!!!!!!!!!!!! What a "Crock"!!!! oh, I mean "Crocker"!!!!

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Veteran

9:58 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

Abigail needs to read the first amendment to the constitution of the united states.

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Ray Bassett

9:59 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

Obviously, freedom of speech does not pertain to this website/blog. The "editors" feel that it is they're "right" to censor everything that is written here. I'm not sure....do we need this blog?? Who's paying for it??? I sure hope the City of EP isn't dishing out money for a website that censors its citizens???!?!?!

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Paul

10:29 am on Friday, March 2, 2012

It would be fair and prudent to take Lindsay at her word that the removal of the posts was unintentional.

Although some bloggers routinely walk the fine line between what is proper and what is not, and a small minority occasionally cross that line, there appeared to be a curiously aggressive reaction by Abigail to the posts about Mr. DaSilva in particular. Just as is the case with a football referee, the calls should be right and should be consistent. Wrong or inconsistent calls naturally raise doubts about the fairness and impartiality of the arbitror.

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Arthur Dolloff

3:35 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

Well ladies you are doing a great job of proving my (our) point that "Patch" can and is edited at the whim of those who do not like the truth. Abigail you have a post I sent directly to you and from what I see the comments I have made are coming home to roost. It is sad that a national blog that has received such accolades is being reduced to a pitiful joke, but you are succeeding at proving the citizenry of EP right. Singular interests are controlling the city and you are helping hide the people’s voice. Here is a copy of the e-mail you have not responded to, an acknowledgement would have sufficed to make me believe you were acting in earnest, but you two chose to try to deny it was “Patch” that is causing the loss of comments. Here is your chance to prove your true concerns.
REPOST THE COMMENTS AS THEY WERE.
I know they are in your servers and you have full access to them.
SO FIX IT!!!!

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Arthur Dolloff

3:35 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

Abigail,
It is with great sadness that in this great country there is still a small pocket of small minded people that are still capable of thinking that by censoring the freedom of people to speak their thoughts that this censure will make the spoken sentiments go away. I have heard this complaint from others on Patch and assumed there were retractions that these people decided to affect themselves. But after having several comments I have posted today, and a whole section of posts summarily removed from the Patch site I am most disappointed with your action to censure the freedom of the people to post their minds. I read those posts and there were no issues of civility as you had alluded to. Just because you received pressure form a higher political source to act, I would have thought you would have been stronger in your convictions. Just because someone was upset with the truth being said does not give you or anyone the right to deny the right to speak out. All in all I felt the whole truth and efforts of each person to speak their thoughts was very evenly stated. There were comments directed directly at you and I have to say you deserve them for the immature way you responded and especially the way you acted to try to remove the posts like they didn’t happen. Such actions will just embolden these people (me included)to speak out again with even stronger numbers and more cutting comments till the truth is fully heard without your immature and unnecessary intervention.

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Jim B

5:43 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

Mr Dasilva is a Union hack and should not seek re-election as Mr DeVall is doing.

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Ray Bassett

6:13 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

You reposted exactly what you "wanted" to repost.....and you call yourselves "journalists"???!?!?!? Hypocrites are more like it. . . . . .

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Rumford Resident

7:44 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

Ray

The letter from DaSilva has been posted since Feb 29

Arthur and my rebuttals mysteriously disappeared because of a 'server' issue.

I found them on the patch site, cut and pasted, and re-posted.

Why should a hack like DaSilva have his piece posted without a serious rebuttal?

I don't understand why we are hypocrites..

Arthur Dolloff

8:13 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012

I find when I read Mr. Da Silva’s letter he makes the point that his own son is facing the loss of school sports. This is sad situation but not a good reason to lobby for taking more money out of the pockets of the citizens. Money many cannot afford to pay, and spend it to benefit a small group of affected students. To say sports prevents bullying without any proof is outrageous, If anything sports serves to further divide the student body into those that are organized in sports and those that suffer from the bullying often supported by the “sports clique”. Anyone familiar with organized sports knows that there are winners, and those that have their faces rubbed in the fact they lost. It is a fact of life and spending more taxpayer money will not change that reality. In the class of “67” there was a sports associated group of students known as “RIC” (real in crowd) a moniker they chose to remind everyone how much better they were than the others in their class. Let’s see if this post gets eaten by Abigail’s server.

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Gregg Amore

9:17 am on Sunday, March 4, 2012

There is significant research on the positive aspects of extra-curricular activities for middle and high school students. Higher grades, less retention and better attendance, just to name a few. The most important research conducted at Harvard points to the particular benefits to low income students. I have seen no research indicating that those who participate in extra curricular activities are more likely to bully as you suggest. A Johns Hopkins study suggests that tween and teen bullies usually learn to bully from what they see at home. There is also considerable evidence that most bullying comes out of fractured relationships (friendships). Most bullying today is done through social networking. Again, no evidence that extra curricular participants (student-athletes) bully any more or any less than any other student. You seem to have done what you accuse the writer of doing...presenting a thesis without proof.

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James Durfee

9:57 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

From the Institute of Marital Healing:

Boys who do not play sports often experience significant peer rejection and bullying in a culture that places excessive emphasis upon athletic success as a sign of true masculinity. Such boys can develop a school phobia. They often have strong feelings of loneliness and sadness, few male friends, weak male confidence and resentment toward males who were insensitive to them. These boys can develop same sex attractions in an unconscious attempt to gain the male acceptance that was missing in their male peer relationships.

These males benefit from special attention from their parents, especially their fathers. A challenge here is that fathers tend to be confident bonding with their sons primarily through athletic activities. Many fathers often have difficulty knowing how to be close to their sons who do not show an interest in sports. A common error fathers make with sons who lack eye hand coordination is to attempt to force them to play sports. Many boys simply lack the ability to learn the skills needed for baseball, basketball, soccer or football.

Fathers can bond with such sons in a number of ways including hiking, fishing, hunting, playing chess, and walking. They can also identify and discuss topics of interest to their sons. In addition, these boys also benefit from their fathers helping them to grow in an awareness of their special God-given gifts that is essential in building male confidence.

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Arthur Dolloff

3:59 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

And this should cost the taxpayers more money ???? WHY ???

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JJD

9:45 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Yeah, Arthur, I don't understand why we would want to pay for this program for our children in East Providence, why would we want to invest in the kids?

This city is turning into a real life version of the Simpson's episode 'Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays'. Arthur, you obviously have signed up for SSCCATAGAPP.

Ray Bassett

12:51 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

@RR (rumford resident) the hypocrites I am referring to are - Abigail and Lindsay, the so-called "journalists"..........please pay attention "RR" ...........thnx!

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Ray Bassett

12:55 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

@RR (again)........"Server issue" .........I've been in the Computer Industry for over 30yrs.........it wasn't a "server issue" !!! I cannot find my previous posts anywhere!!! and WHY would they be somewhere else, and not still attached to this specific conversation!?!?!?! they were purposely removed and/or deleted!

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JJD

9:49 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Really, because I used to be an administrator on a message board where we had over 100 posts go missing over a week. They were not deleted, but for whatever reason they did not show to the public. It turned out it was an issue with a server update the the web-hosting company had done.

Remember Hanlon's Razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"

Rumford Resident

2:19 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

Thanks Ray.

Perhaps the Patch servers are legacy Soviet Union or imports from present day China

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Arthur Dolloff

8:33 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

GMA or whoever you are,

I present no thesis, report or conclusion, what I do present is my opinion based on bringing two children thru the sports and extracurricular activities that are still offered today. If you think that electronic media has an influence on bullying then where is the revulsion for allowing cell phones in schools? You appear to speak as someone with teaching experience or background, at least your casual references to John Hopkinsand Harvard University and other specialized reports tends to support that observation. The real point is that the city does not have the money for these programs right now. Hell there are teachers using their own funds to supply necessary daily supplies. A politician and supporters allegedly using groups of students coached to present a slick and biased presentation for the purpose of swaying public opinion and furthering their efforts to sway officials to use more taxpayer money to benefit a small portion of the citizenry surely does not require a thesis, contrary it takes common sense. Common sense not distorted by innuendo and rhetoric ineffectually supported by vague allusions to great university studies and school pageant techniques used to influence feeble minds. This letter to the Governor does not speak for the majority of EP taxpayers and needs to be shown for the self-serving effort to gain favor on Election Day that it is. If you have proof contrary to my opinion please present it.

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Gregg Amore

7:14 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Mr. Dolloff,
My name is Gregg Amore and I am a teacher and coach...and one of those people you referenced as having spent thousands of dollars on supplies and equipment for my students and athletes. I did not take a position on preserving middle school sports. I think everything is on the table. I took exception to your insinuation that school sports divide a school and support bullying. I thought this was unfair and unsupported by any evidence. I thought it was strange that you would accuse the writer of making an assertion without proof while you were doing the same thing. You may be right about the motivation of the writer, I do not know what is in his heart or mind. It is hard to reference extensive studies in much more than a casual manner in a blog. I have written ed research pieces on the positive effects of extracurriculars and I have some training in identifying and stopping teen bullying. I was not, as you suggest, trying to use "rhetoric ineffectually supported by vague allusions to great university studies". I was attempting to point out the merits of middle school supports and refute your insinuation that student athletes tend to support bullying. That is not my experience and I have seen no research to support it. I agree that we have bigger fish to fry than middle school sports and I have no indication as to what the majority of EP taxpayers want. I have worked for years raising money for school sports and that, in the end, may be the solution.

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Rumford Resident

7:51 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Why do we need to have bake sales etc....

Tsonos was quoted in the Projo and elsewhere as saying he knows where to find the money.....

So we have a tax hike every year, but we need to sell brownies to pay for sports?

This is a management issue and luckily we have OKeefe and team in place to solve the problem that the bought and paid for school commiteee (working families of RI) gave us.....

And for the rank and file teacher, arent you glad your forced dues go to pay for political campaigns that gave us 'leaders' like Tsnonos, Rossi, and lets not forget our liaison to the school committee Katie Kleyla.

November is getting closer....

the only question will be what will come first, the receiver or the election......

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James Durfee

9:44 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012

I understand Mr. Doloffs point...the "cult of the athlete" has historically had a major impact on bullying. It is often ingrained in the sports mentalty particularly with hazing. If we put more focus on extracurricular activities like the science club or the academic decathalon we would be better off as a society. Here is a section from Penn State's research on bullying which brought up Columbine:

"The blame for school shootings has been pinned, in part, on teachers and administrators who failed to recognize and intervene in a chronic bullying situation. The infamous "basement tapes" made by Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold contain many references to their murderous rage against the school cliques—particularly the jocks—whose bullying contributed to Harris and Klebold feeling like social outcasts.

A post-massacre investigation by the Washington Post concluded that bullying at Columbine was "rampant and unchecked," due to the "cult of the athlete" that dominated the school climate. According to the report, school authorities permitted favored athletes—the nicknamed "steroid poster boys" who wore white caps to set themselves apart—to get away with physical, verbal and sexual harassment incidents without significant punishment."

Arthur Dolloff

8:40 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

I will stand up and thank the editors of Patch.com and their support staff for enduring and fixing the problem we all were affected by.
THANK YOU PATCH

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JC

10:30 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012

Patch is actually owned by AOL. If you want more info, go here: http://www.patch.com/about

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Rumford Resident

7:08 am on Thursday, March 8, 2012

Excellent points James and Arthur....

I hope this is enough 'support' to show you were trying to provide a perspective to the sports discussion that had not been heard thus far....

Classic liberal feedback from Mr Amore where they are always the smartest ones in the room and our opinions are shot down.

No one said there isn't a value to sports, but it is not nirvana....

Mr Amore probably didn't see Mr Durfee's analysis because he was at a meeting of the 'working Families or RI' getting marching orders from Val Lawson and Faria and Moura

We have asbestos issues, leaking roofs and other safety issues in the schools but we bring up SPORTS! Typical distraction from the real issues from people like DaSilva who are at the root of the deficits!

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Gregg Amore

9:25 pm on Friday, March 9, 2012

I have seen Mr. Durfee's comments and I have read the Washington Post piece and the Penn State study. I appreciate Mr. Durfee drawing my attention to that information. According to the Wash. Post, about 8 "athletes", including two criminals who also happened to be athletes wreaked havoc on that campus. School Administrators and staff were asleep at the wheel but I don't think this instance proves the assertion that school sports divide a school and that student athletes are somehow more apt to bully than others. That was and is the point I was addressing. The Penn State study points to a high percentage of teen bullies ending up in the criminal justice system at some point. That doesn't match up with the numbers that support school sports as a way to keep students out of the criminal justice system. I still see no evidence that student athletes bully any more or less than any other teens. As to being the smartest person in the room, I find that is true only when I am alone. As far as a classic liberal response...I don't know what that is but I'm sure this will be considered one. I was addressing what I thought was an unfair statement in regard to student athletes and bullying, nothing more and nothing else. I try to remain civil and avoid personal attacks....I guess that is a classic liberal response as well. Val Lawson didn't tell me to say anything else so I guess I'll go. Don't want to be late for the RI Communist Party meeting.

Rumford Resident

11:08 pm on Friday, March 9, 2012

Should we bring up the recent Andover High School incident of last year. Google high school sports hazing and receive 1.3 million hits.

It is a generalization, but the original point was just that. That school sports is not an answer to every problem.

As for being the smartest person in the room, I'm sure you do feel that way. I think Mr OKeefe put it best as to that type of attitude leading to a less than stellar graduation rate in the city.

Make sure you say hello to Governor Chafee at the Communist Party meeting. I'm sure he will be there.

Another fine example of how the unions funded another hack. Your investment is paying off there as well.....

I'm sure the subject of Binding Arbitration will be discussed at that meeting (or as Val Lawson calls it Bind'in Arbitration) Just when you thought the unions learned their lesson, they bring that topic back to the forefront.....Another example of how it is 'always about the kids'......Yeah right....

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Gregg Amore

11:51 am on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Thank you for acknowleding that generalizations are dangerous and despite what you continue to write, I never said school sports is the answer to every problem. I actually agreed with you that we have much bigger fish to fry. Mr. OKeefe was absolutely out of his league when he made that comment as you are now. By the way, the man he was addressing taught in a school system that has a 96% graduation rate....but that does not matter because Mr. OKeefe made an inappropriate connection just as you have done. Barrington graduation rate 98%, Shea High School 58%....and that reflects the quality of the teachers? Switch the teachers and the graduation rates remain the same. Graduation rates are based on many factors outside the teachers' control including attendance rates, poverty levels, intinerant student populations, home environment of the student, as well as the quality of the education they get. On this subject I feel as though I am more informed (not smarter) than you. It must be a great gift to be clairvoyant and all knowing since you're sure you know how I feel...amazing gift. I will have to check with Val Lawson to see if I can continue to debate this issue. Or maybe I should ask you...you seem to know all these things...What would Val say? Hazing, by the way, is not limited to athletics...it has been used in frats, military, bands, Princeton Skull and Bones...etc.

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Rumford Resident

7:03 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

I'll provide various thoughts on the current state of public education in a series of posts.

I will begin with a quote from the late Steve Jobs.

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

So the question becomes, should we listen to a local shill for the unions, or the main who created the largest private sector company in the history of the US.

I'll stand with the founder of Apple...

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JJD

11:01 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

You stand with Jobs and I'll stand with the professionals. Jobs was an innovator of what he knew, which was technology, and honestly, he did more of the marketing and aesthetic design as an 'art' than the actual technological guts, which he relied on Woz and later other engineers for. Jobs has no background in education whatsoever, so I take his opinion only as seriously as the next person. In fact, not only am I more apt to listen to the experts over him, I'm more apt to listen to local residents over him, when it comes to education.

I think we forget that these unions are not like private sector unions, they can't strike (and if they try, they are ordered back to work in a day or two by a judge). They have very little actual leverage, yet they are scapegoated like they control everything, because they may have supported a candidate that ended up winning election. Let's ignore how many candidates we've had that won without union support. Remember there's two sides to every contract, the employee side and the management side, if I as a resident (shareholder essentially) don't like the contract, I blame my management team, not the employee.

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Rumford Resident

3:27 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012

JJD

You stand with 'the professionals' of the NEA

You stand with Val Lawson, Louis Rainone, Bob Walsh, and the flacks Moura and Faria, and Vinhateiro.....

The NEA and the AFT have made US public education what it is today...

I for one would be willing to take the opinion of an outsider who hires from what public education has produced in the past 40 years....

You most likely voted for Kleyla and Rossi.....

I for one would vote for Steve Jobs.....

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JJD

12:25 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012

Firstly, I stand with the educational professionals, not their bargaining unit. Moura and Faria aren't part of the NEA, neither are Kleyla and Rossi. I couldn't have voted for "Kleyla and Rossi" because they are in two different wards, at best I can vote for one of them. Underfunding at the federal level made education what it is today, overuse of IEPs as a reactionary method of helping struggling students made some of the problems today. In RI, funding education by the regressive property tax caused part of this problem. You want to take what one person thinks based on the people he hired out in California as gospel, that's your choice. Jobs denied the paternity of his first child and let her live off of welfare while he raked in millions of dollars, so you can feel free to stand with him if you like.

Arthur Dolloff

4:20 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Gregg,

My feelings are that if teachers are taking out of their own pockets to provide necessities for the student’s daily educational needs, the issue raised by sports is surely just a smoke screen to divert attention and action from much more serious problems. Hell even the orchestra played while the Titanic was sinking. And that was caused in part by the vanities’ of the powerful persons in control. You can challenge any stated position and there are always of coloring the light that shines on the subject.
BUT THE FACTS DO NOT CHANGE.
We need to tackle much bigger problems in EP and wasting public interest with lesser problems is a waste of time and money in itself. According to a report in the “Reporter” and some simplistic reasoning and math, the cost per student for the middle school sports comes in around $265.00 yearly. I paid $200.00 per month for one child to participate in the sport of their choice and did it on a real thin budget. I guess the answer may become ‘pay to play’ to keep all sides happy.

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Arthur Dolloff

4:38 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Retention rates, Graduation rates, GPA's, Test scores, all mean little if the system is so broke that it cannot run. Gregg has some very good points that are very true; however I think we should consider fixing what is most important to keeping the system healthy. WE ARE BLEEDIND MONEY PROFUSELY. Then we can fix the issues that make the system work better and attain higher standards. You can't rebuild a house until you put out the fire!!! The hot button talk and comparisons to other systems do not change the facts, and if we do not stop the losses, there will be nothing left to build on. As I have said before this is going to hurt, there is no easy way out, but the sooner we start and challenge the system fix the problems the sooner we can move on to the rebuilding toe opportunities the city has to offer.

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Gregg Amore

11:21 pm on Saturday, March 10, 2012

Mr. Dolloff,
We agree that fixing the foundation is essential. There is no easy way out and all the stakeholders will have to make sacrafices. Middle school sports may be one of those sacrafices. We need to fundamentally change the way we fund public education in this country so that the burden is not always on the property owner. In districts like EP, the homeowner's capacity to pay has been stretched to the limit.

Arthur Dolloff

9:35 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012

To put a light on the original comment that sports stifles bullying, the local recent news releases show that some of the most obnoxious behavior is shown at local hockey and basketball games. These morons have set an example for the youth attending these games that will take years of constabulary contact to dull their influence, and who will bear that cost????

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Arthur Dolloff

4:18 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012

JJD
The Simpsons, surely you are more mature that that show !!!!

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S

10:38 pm on Wednesday, April 4, 2012

Roberto Dasliva what a moron

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