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What did NL say that was offensive?

That's not where I wear the patch.

......yikes...

She is a Communist, Period! Look at all her comments throughout the year. A Paid for Political Terrorist crony. An insider of the Governor’s office to discredit, disavows, and cause discernment amongst the ranks. A Fraud!

I'm not convinced the Italians can teach us much about government finances, Jack.

Our current accounts deficit is bad, but not THAT bad...
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/774/economics/list-of-national-debt-by-country/

Could be because the Italians ignore their own history and did not learn from the perials that befell Rome NL. Same with the Greeks obviously. Just saying

Not archais Mike. Those who do not learn from history are oomed to repeat it as they say.

C'mon - even the Italians ignore Cicero.

The sum total of wealth in the Roman era was less than the daily cost to clear the streets of New York city - every day. Things have changed, some.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218025/Meet-14th-Century-African-king-richest-man-world-time-adjusted-inflation.html

Yea I usually check them befor posting. It was from a source that usually does also. Oh well still true even with the added language since, Rome was going broke at the time and losing control of its member State in the Republic. With Reginal Governors taxing the people till they had no more to pay. So it does fit the times we are seeing today in any case in my opinion ;-}

Well 1964 anyway lol.

Also you didn't get that he also included powful executive of business being worshiped also. Which I would have thought you would definatly approve of since you seems to dislike sucessful businessmen from your post on Romney.

Don't get techy - you made good points there.

Not everybody is gonna agree with you Jack.
I know it gives me hives when I do...

Gee hope you ok NL, hives are itchy and you can get an infection scratching them, we would not want that would we lol.

Barry Goldwater is not the person I would reference regarding the power of the presidency or the power which Congress possesses. He was supported by big business throughout his political career. Using a one sentence quote does not make him the man of the people by any stretch of the imagination.

Doesn't matter JAT, that is from his speech before the National Convention and it was very forward seeing to what is happening today. Name me any politician in History who accomplished or even followed their their own words to the letter, epecially in modern times.

All Presidents say what the people want to here when campaigning, reguardless of party. Quote from the Secretary of defence in the movie Red october comes to mind.

"Look mister Ryan, I'm a Politician, that means I lie for a living and when I am not kissing babies I am stealing their Lollypops." Best explaination I ever heard to explain a politician. Just saying.

Yes she does Jack! That is her Motifs Operandi.

Consider deleting the comments that aren't, please.

She did NL. Sorry Elizabeth got carried away on the personal attack again lol.

Good one Rag 1 and on target as well for simplicity of the problem in simple terms.

Joe, our nation's debt does need to be addressed. With that said, please, in your own words, tell readers what solutions you favor. If you say cut government spending, please specify which programs you would reduce and by how much?

He has done, before.

In a nutshell, eliminate Health, Education and Welfare departments.
Start a couple nice foreign wars to strip out the underclass. Boo-yah!

Wow NL your coming around to the light lol.

To be clear, the only people seriously considering this already have theirs and aren't concerned about any legacy. If you think these are good ideas, you likely don't have progeny. That, and you expect to die before the return of Acid Rain.

I'm not advocating what amounts to pillage at the expense of future Americans.
That is to say, I'm not a member of the Tea Party.

Well Naome, I for one, do not agree that the term "pillage" is appropriate or accurate seeing that current estimates project that there will not be enough revenues to collect what I paid in when I retire.
Effectively, that's not pillage, it's equitableness.
The balance of deficit and entitlements have become a complex issue and there is no easy remedy. However, in my mind, a do nothing approach and an increase in debt while maintaining a flat GDP (real per capita) growth rate are causes for serious concern, and there are some fairly centered solutions that can get us started in the right direction. It seems that the majority of Americans don't value or respect the effects or dangers of unmanageable debt, especially in the future as America's global weight declines and emerging markets begin realizing their global potential.

"...current estimates project that there will not be enough revenues to collect what I paid in when I retire. Effectively, that's not pillage, it's equitableness."
- Baywatch

If your generation only collected what you paid in, the sheet would balance.
You lot are taking out far more in benefits than you paid. That's pillage.

"Governments slashed tax rates in the 1980s to revitalise lagging economies, just as boomers approached their prime earning years. The average federal tax rate for a median American household, including income and payroll taxes, dropped from more than 18% in 1981 to just over 11% in 2011. Yet sensible tax reforms left less revenue for the generous benefits boomers have continued to vote themselves, such as a prescription-drug benefit paired with inadequate premiums. Deficits exploded."

- The Economist, Sponging Boomers 29SEP12

It didn't go to "welfare" or "immigrants" or "foreign aid" it went to YOU.
It's unsustainable, and now, to protect your "earned" benefits you willingly
cut off the same programs that made your working life charmed.

The people forced to carry YOUR debts will have poor education choices,
crumbling roads and lousy job opportunities at home since the Boomers failed
to maintain these same programs which made their own success possible.

Pillage : : to plunder ruthlessly : loot

=== Naome =====
If your generation only collected what you paid in, the sheet would balance.
You lot are taking out far more in benefits than you paid. That's pillage.
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What in the world are you talking about Naome? My generation? What generation is that?
Is it typical for you to freely make vast assumptions and assertions with little or no point of reference?
I'm taking out more than I paid in? Really? Please elaborate.

Up until ~2008 U.S. federal government revenues increased relative to GDP year-over-year. 2008 to present revenues may be low, but federal revenue as a percent of GDP seem to have remained modestly consistent in the .15 to .2 range since the early 1950’s. Federal spending however has reached the highest it’s been since World War 2 relative to GDP.

While there are aspects of the current trend of low federal revenue that could be directly correlated (when viewed independently) to lower tax and interest rates enacted in an attempt to stimulate growth in the current downturn; it is really an orthogonal attribute when considering unemployment/under-employment, along with both the housing crises and also coupled with the global economic weakness and the effects that these factors have had on the U.S economy as a whole. It's nice to smugly try to wrap all of these complexities up into some nice little political talking point for either party though, all while projecting the condescending prowess of Google intellect.

Joe I will ask again, what is your solution? Why do you need to know what the Democrats plan to do to address the debt situation?

troves plural of trove

Noun

A store of valuable or delightful things.

Merriam/webster

;-}

"... our children are doomed to live in poverty . They will work their whole lives to pay back the debt our generation ran up. The left will blame every one but them selves for this selfish act." The blame for this is derived from two unfunded wars of choice (a form of government stimulus) and a colossal tax cut.

Buying off seniors with an unfunded prescription plan (which is a base transfer to Big Pharma, as if they needed a bailout) paved the way for the unfunded liability
that you decry, to the tune of $16B. They got their drugs so long as they voted
Shrub back in to office.

How's that worked out, Jethro?

As I said,Tax and Spend Liberals ruining our Country.

Who was running the ship of State when it ran aground?

You have the memory of a goldfish and the integrity of an eel.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/08/americas_peculiar_amnesia.html

Tax and Spend Liberals were running the Country. If the Tea Party was, we would be on the road to recovery.

You have the memory of a goldfish and the integrity of an eel.
When they loose an argument the insults start.

Thank goodness the Tea Party consists mostly of old guys because once they start dying off the Republicans can have their party back again. Obviously what happened this last election has taught you nothing.

"Woonsocket needs an upraising to stop them.Lets do it all together."

Great. Can we do that somewhere the OP actually refers to WST?

John Ward also said he would run again because "no one else will". I think that part of his interview was correct. he was quite arrogant in the interview. You could hear Buddy chuckling in the background.

o put your meth needles and crack pipes down
o there is nothing in this thread about Woonsocket, Ward, or Cianci
o while an uprising may protest something your "upraising" will make your arms tired
o if you've mistakenly posted here, remember, if it's on the internet, it has to be true
....bonjour